Podcast: #106 Mike Boyle


“I ended up in this strength and conditioning hothouse.”

“I didn’t like whiny people, I didn’t like hurt people… I felt like sometimes the training room was a place for people to go cause they didn’t want to go to practice.”

“I didn’t even start to make a dent until I was probably 40 year old.”

“I was in the incubator.”

“If you’re good, people will find you and people will pay you.”

“I struggle more trying to find good people to fill good jobs more than trying to find people good jobs.”

“When you put your foot on the ground, all the muscles do the same thing. They keep you from falling on the ground.”

PT: “We need to know what his quad/hamstring ratio is (Cybex test).” Mike: “No, we don’t.”

ACL: “I can’t believe they’re back to isokinetic testing.”

“Couldn’t tolerate any isolated joint stuff at all. One day of leg extensions and he’d have an effusion in his knee. Closed chain, vertical tibia stuff was good… does it hurt? If he said no, we’d do it, if he said yeah, then we wouldn’t.”

“We were doing backwards walking in 1994 for patellofemoral problems so it’s not exactly innovative.”

“No one has a tracking problem, patellas can’t track, it’s a sesamoid bone, it can only go where it’s told to go either by the muscles or the femur.”

“If there was a train crash, no one would go look at the train… but we’re spending all out time on the train (patella) and not on the track (trochlear groove), you need to figure out femoral control and that comes from your hip.”

“The opposite of functional training is dysfunctional training and we were specialists in dysfunctional training.”

“Most strength coaches are parrots. They just repeat what they hear, they don’t think at all… whereas you get the wise old owl saying that doesn’t make any sense.”

“I’ve never tried anything that moved the needle any more than progressive resistance exercise has moved the needle.”

“The times we had been the most successful were when we were really good at progressive resistance exercise (add 5 more pounds, one more rep, etc.). There was very little that was magical.”

College S&C: “Success was all about getting people training (plyos, sprints, hip-, knee-, push-, pull-exercises).”

S&C influence: “It seemed to change every decade. Initially, it was bodybuilding. Then, it was powerlifting. Then, it was Olympic weightlifting. The 2000s come, and there’s an intersection (bodybuilding, powerlifting, Olympic lifting, rehabilitation) and now you have the world of performance enhancement… 2010-2015 is the rebellion against performance enhancement.”

Westside: “It was putting icing on a cake that they already liked.”

“Our primary problem associated with the weight room is back pain… almost everybody who is complaining about back pain clearly associates it with the back squat.”

“If 10-20% were actively in the training room being treated for back pain and I can clearly establish that all of it relates to the back squat, should I not start questioning the back squat?”

“Two strikes and you’re out for me… I can write off one incident as an accident… If it happens more than once… then something isn’t agreeing with you which means we need to find an alternative.”

“The more neurologically efficient they are, the less they like compressive spinal loading.”

“Your really efficient neural guys are guys you should be listening to all the time even though you don’t want to.”

Neural guys: “They’re like a cat in the squat rack.”

“All of these -itises are evidence of the orthopedic cost (e.g., patellar tendon for jumpers).”

“A guy who doesn’t attempt a lot of triple jumps, high jumps, or dunks is not going to get patellar tendonitis.”

“The number one thing with patellofemoral pain is, does it hurt?”

“If we want somebody’s patellofemoral pain to go away, we don’t ask them to do anything that produces patellofemoral pain.”

Something hurts: “If we’re getting joint pain, that’s not what we want.”

Next day soreness: “Where are you sore? If they point at muscles, I’m like cool.. If they point as joints, I’m like not cool. It’s that simple.”

The current S&C monitoring stage: “We’re so fascinated by the force plate… I can’t believe we’re back to isokinetic quad/hamstring ratio. That may be the most regressive thing that’s ever happened in knee rehab in my lifetime.”

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